Should we have a PTA Facebook page? - PTA Great Idea Bank 2011-12-06T05:29:48Z http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/forum/topics/should-we-have-a-pta-facebook?feed=yes&xn_auth=no This is awesome. Thanks so mu… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-29:2919887:Comment:57440 2011-11-29T14:44:56.408Z Jami Fogle http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/JamiFogle <p>This is awesome.</p> <p>Thanks so much for sharing and spreading good things!</p> <p> </p> <p>This is awesome.</p> <p>Thanks so much for sharing and spreading good things!</p> <p> </p> I'm a fan of keeping it simpl… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-29:2919887:Comment:57439 2011-11-29T14:43:12.637Z Karen Bantuveris http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/KarenBantuveris <p>I'm a fan of keeping it simple (again, it's a fan page and you want to encourage communication).  Here's a modified fun paragraph:</p> <p> </p> <p><b>Comment Policy:</b> In an attempt to maintain a positive, productive, supportive online school community, we have the right to reject comments that are off-topic, self-promotional, inflammatory, or that bum us out for any reason. Your praise and enthusiasm is most welcome but please don't post pictures of kids unless they are your own and don't…</p> <p>I'm a fan of keeping it simple (again, it's a fan page and you want to encourage communication).  Here's a modified fun paragraph:</p> <p> </p> <p><b>Comment Policy:</b> In an attempt to maintain a positive, productive, supportive online school community, we have the right to reject comments that are off-topic, self-promotional, inflammatory, or that bum us out for any reason. Your praise and enthusiasm is most welcome but please don't post pictures of kids unless they are your own and don't publicly criticize teachers, staff and the like. But you wouldn't do that anyway - you're too cool.  {If you do have a concern, we want to hear it, please contact Name -  her contact information is on the school website.}</p> <p> </p> <p>If you want something more detailed, perhaps you could modify guidelines from this forum: <a href="http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2000/01/postguide.ars" target="_blank">http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2000/01/postguide.ars</a><br/>I like that it mentions there is a community moderating the posts and posts will be removed if they don’t follow guidelines – and then list the guidelines that make sense for your parent group.</p> Hi Jessica! I think the more… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-29:2919887:Comment:57046 2011-11-29T14:39:55.525Z sherriwilson http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/sherriwilson <p>Hi Jessica! I think the more vehicles you have for sharing information the better! You can set up a fan page on FB that allows you to control the content so that you aren't sharing anything inappropriate. You are totally right that many, many parents, teachers and community members are already accessing social media sites. So, you won't reach every family using FB, but you will reach some. I think it's a great idea!</p> <p>Hi Jessica! I think the more vehicles you have for sharing information the better! You can set up a fan page on FB that allows you to control the content so that you aren't sharing anything inappropriate. You are totally right that many, many parents, teachers and community members are already accessing social media sites. So, you won't reach every family using FB, but you will reach some. I think it's a great idea!</p> Do you have a resource for se… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-29:2919887:Comment:57044 2011-11-29T13:27:26.496Z Jami Fogle http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/JamiFogle <p>Do you have a resource for setting ground rules?  At this time, there are absolutely no ground rules about appropriate postings.  I would love to copy/paste without re-inventing the wheel, so-to-speak, if you have a great resource.  Thanks.</p> <p> </p> <p>Do you have a resource for setting ground rules?  At this time, there are absolutely no ground rules about appropriate postings.  I would love to copy/paste without re-inventing the wheel, so-to-speak, if you have a great resource.  Thanks.</p> <p> </p> Love the discussion thread he… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-28:2919887:Comment:57530 2011-11-28T22:57:23.701Z Karen Bantuveris http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/KarenBantuveris <p>Love the discussion thread here.  A few points to consider:</p> <ul> <li>Facebook is a very useful supplemental community tool because so many of your parents are already hanging out there -- bring the PTA community to them.  (And recruit parents to "like" your facebook page on your website, newsletters, listserve, posters at school events, etc.)</li> <li>A Facebook FAN page will inspire maximum conversation with your members and community - including reach to grandparents, alumni, and local…</li> </ul> <p>Love the discussion thread here.  A few points to consider:</p> <ul> <li>Facebook is a very useful supplemental community tool because so many of your parents are already hanging out there -- bring the PTA community to them.  (And recruit parents to "like" your facebook page on your website, newsletters, listserve, posters at school events, etc.)</li> <li>A Facebook FAN page will inspire maximum conversation with your members and community - including reach to grandparents, alumni, and local corporate sponsors.  {You may add a supplemental closed group for board communications and discussions.}</li> <li>Goal is community-building (conversation, sharing, action), not one-way communication.  Once you cultivate trust and an active community, facebook becomes a terrific platform for amplifying membership drives, fundraising and recruiting and recognizing volunteers and sponsors. </li> <li>You don't have to monitor facebook alone - find parents who are active on facebook and recruit them to be your conversation starters and fan page moderators.  Delete entries that are inflammatory and set ground rules about appropriate posting.</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>Gosh - I could go on and on.... best to check the blog articles in my previous post.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> Charles, I think you are volu… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-28:2919887:Comment:57233 2011-11-28T19:53:52.645Z Jami Fogle http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/JamiFogle <p>Charles, I think you are volunteering at the high school level...?</p> <p>If so, I can only offer insight as to how we handle things at the public school K-5 level in a major city...</p> <p>Unfortunately, I do not think there is an easy solution for streamlining media and communication.</p> <p>Centralizing admininstration of various online media rests with our Communications team, a part of the PTA Board (non-elected).  We are currently blessed to have a husband/wife Comm team that is a…</p> <p>Charles, I think you are volunteering at the high school level...?</p> <p>If so, I can only offer insight as to how we handle things at the public school K-5 level in a major city...</p> <p>Unfortunately, I do not think there is an easy solution for streamlining media and communication.</p> <p>Centralizing admininstration of various online media rests with our Communications team, a part of the PTA Board (non-elected).  We are currently blessed to have a husband/wife Comm team that is a creative marketing design firm to Fortune 100 companies.  They inherited a PTA website that has been touched by so many people (cannot recall if it is madmimi, constant contact or other) that it is near impossible to maintain without constant undetectable implosions.  One little change/revision/improvement could accidentally unload/dump into cyberspace lots of valuable information...and only with constant supervision are these things detected!</p> <p> </p> <p>As you may already know, there are several ways to deal with membership for volunteer recruitment:</p> <ul> <li>Volunteer Spot (grade-wide or school-wide).</li> <li>Sign Up Genius (grade-wide or school-wide).</li> <li>Writeboard (localized classroom level).</li> </ul> <p> </p> <p>The best case scenario that I know of regarding document archiving is to create a PTA-driven web site where you can house history.</p> <p>If you are looking for an internal option for archived docs like meeting minutes, etc...Dropbox is an excellent free tool.  It does require each individual personally download, but it is so worth the effort as documents can be revised and saved real time within the entire group.</p> <p>I am new to to this group, so my apologies if I have not been clear.</p> <p>Jami Fogle</p> <p> </p> As others have said, this is… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-28:2919887:Comment:57437 2011-11-28T18:59:05.702Z Charles Schultz http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/CharlesSchultz <p>As others have said, this is a great discussion and I am glad to see that a number of folks have joined in. Lots of good points brought to the surface.</p> <p> </p> <p>Since there is a clear demand for a facebook presence (as evidenced here), what is a good way to centralize adminsitration of various online media? It gets to be a pain when you have a website, a blog, facebook, twitter and a newsletter. Is there a good solution forautomatically streaming updates to said media…</p> <p>As others have said, this is a great discussion and I am glad to see that a number of folks have joined in. Lots of good points brought to the surface.</p> <p> </p> <p>Since there is a clear demand for a facebook presence (as evidenced here), what is a good way to centralize adminsitration of various online media? It gets to be a pain when you have a website, a blog, facebook, twitter and a newsletter. Is there a good solution forautomatically streaming updates to said media outlets?</p> <p> </p> <p>Clearly, facebook does some really cool things! What do folks do when they find something that facebook does not do (ie, static/archived documents, thread history, email list, etc)?</p> <p> </p> <p>And no, I had not heard of the partnership between the National PTA and Facebook. I'll have to go looking for the latest on that.</p> Love your question, Jessica. … tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-28:2919887:Comment:57036 2011-11-28T18:56:58.595Z Jami Fogle http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/JamiFogle <p>Love your question, Jessica.  We have several different communication tools for our K-5 PTA membership:</p> <ul> <li>Personal web site offered by city-wide public school system, which includes Principal blog and photos.</li> <li>PTA web site.</li> <li>Weekly generated e-blast.</li> <li>Online store website: for spirit sales, general donations, parent involvement events like father/daughter or mother/son event tix, waste-free lunch products, etc. </li> </ul> <p>Facebook PTA page is excellent…</p> <p>Love your question, Jessica.  We have several different communication tools for our K-5 PTA membership:</p> <ul> <li>Personal web site offered by city-wide public school system, which includes Principal blog and photos.</li> <li>PTA web site.</li> <li>Weekly generated e-blast.</li> <li>Online store website: for spirit sales, general donations, parent involvement events like father/daughter or mother/son event tix, waste-free lunch products, etc. </li> </ul> <p>Facebook PTA page is excellent for schools working with a basic backbone of communication (paper as you mentioned above).  As you consider Facebook as a platform, I strongly encourage that you deliberate on how you set up the Facebook PTA page from inception.  Based on my recent research of businesses (small to large, consulting firms and mom/pop shops), no one offers more than a push-out/alert notification Facebook format.  Certainly, this still enables people to comment on the wall post, but it limits conversation to the wall post topic. </p> <p> </p> <p>Our Facebook PTA page was set up before I was voted into my position as VP/Fundraising.  It is an open forum.  I don't agree with it, but to change it might be difficult at this point because it would be considered censorship according to a small % of membership.  Facebook is an interesting phenomenon.  It is a social network, platform and vehicle.  For your school, it is probably a fantastic leap from paper.  For our school, it might be watering down all the other communication vehicles we provide.  We do so much work to provide our membership as much information as possible for the entire year, and still...it is easier for members to simply ask on Facebook than to plug into all the documents we include online (live documents that are updated regularly) at all times. </p> <p>Therefore, we are forced to reckon with a somewhat philosophical process management question we have to pose to ourselves:</p> <p>Should we keep up with the times and make it easier for people thru the use of Facebook while we continue to load more volunteer responsibility upon ourselves to communicate effectively with our audience? </p> <p>Do we all need to step back and train our members on proper usage of Facebook PTA page? </p> <p>Or, do we move to general protocol based on research of what mass majority is doing...push-out/alert notification system of communication with our Facebook PTA page?</p> <p> </p> <p>Facebook is a great option for you, no doubt.</p> <p>The reason I ask you to deliberate on the set-up is that I have recently experienced parents cyber-bullying on Facebook.  When a wall post invites a 25-to-30 thread of negative comments, it is a form of cyber-bullying.  I had a parent take a private FB message I wrote (asking her to take her negative comments down and discuss with me directly) and post it - without my consent - on the wall of the page.  When another influential PTA leader came to my defense in yet a separate private FB message, that leader's private message was posted on the public wall of our Facebook PTA page - again, without his consent.  This act is otherwise known as denigration, one of the six most common forms of cyber-bullying...of which we can look forward to educating our children on in the future.</p> <p> </p> <p>Based on your thoughts, I strongly encourage you to implement a Facebook PTA page.  However, I would also strongly encourage you to keep it to a push-out/alert system of communication to create some form of decorum with the comments that follow.  In the least, start out this way and it's still a win-win!</p> <p> </p> <p>New things are growing pains, yet quality problems in my opinion.</p> <p> </p> <p>Best of luck to you!</p> Hi Jessica - I've been speaki… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-28:2919887:Comment:57032 2011-11-28T17:54:25.735Z Karen Bantuveris http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/KarenBantuveris <p>Hi Jessica -</p> <p>I've been speaking a lot on the topic lately and YES YES YES - do consider a PTA/School Facebook Fan page!</p> <p>Here's a link to our recent blog post with a webinar summary and a list of helpful articles on:</p> <p>            <a href="http://blog.volunteerspot.com/volunteer_guru/2011/10/social-media-for-pta-team-wrapup.html" target="_blank">Using Social Media to Boost Parent Engagement, Membership and Fundraising</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Good Luck!!<br/><br/>~ Karen</p> <p>Hi Jessica -</p> <p>I've been speaking a lot on the topic lately and YES YES YES - do consider a PTA/School Facebook Fan page!</p> <p>Here's a link to our recent blog post with a webinar summary and a list of helpful articles on:</p> <p>            <a href="http://blog.volunteerspot.com/volunteer_guru/2011/10/social-media-for-pta-team-wrapup.html" target="_blank">Using Social Media to Boost Parent Engagement, Membership and Fundraising</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Good Luck!!<br/><br/>~ Karen</p> Kyle, can you share some verb… tag:www.ptagreatideabank.org,2011-11-28:2919887:Comment:57030 2011-11-28T17:48:28.621Z Jami Fogle http://www.ptagreatideabank.org/profile/JamiFogle <p>Kyle, can you share some verbiage that we can post on our PTA Facebook page regarding good online citizenship/cyber-bullying?  Would love to share with PTA members with a positive tone.</p> <p>Thanks!</p> <p>Jami Fogle</p> <p> </p> <p>Kyle, can you share some verbiage that we can post on our PTA Facebook page regarding good online citizenship/cyber-bullying?  Would love to share with PTA members with a positive tone.</p> <p>Thanks!</p> <p>Jami Fogle</p> <p> </p>